What aMSN version for OS X 10.3.9 ?

[Jose Hidalgo]

Hi, I'm running OS X 10.3.9 on an iMac G4. Here are my test results :

- aMSN 0.97.2 crashes on startup (probably because it doesn't run on 10.3.9 - pity !).

- aMSN 0.96 starts, but hangs on forever while trying to connect to the MSN network (probably because it's too old).


So, what is the right aMSN version for me ? Right now I'm stuck, since the official MSN client just doesn't work :

- MSN 6.0.1 tells me that I *need* to upgrade if I want to connect,

- and MSN 7 doesn't run on 10.3.9 (a great job from Microsoft, as usual :evil: ).


Thanks for your help.

PS : I have searched for system requirements on the aMSN home page, but have found none. Maybe that's something you should add.

[kakaroto]

Hi, welcome to the forums!
It's a pity that 0.97.2 crashes on 10.3.9, I don't exactly know why it happens though unfortunately.. what you could do is to simply install the 0.96 version and upgrade it to the latest SVN, it should work (hopefully).
You can get instructions here : http://amsn-project.net/wiki/SVN

[Jose Hidalgo]

I have tried updating via SVN, but Mac OS X 10.3.9 doesn't seem to have SVN implemented (the SVN command is unknown when using the Terminal).

Doesn't anybody just know the latest aMSN version compatible with Mac OS X 10.3.x  :shock:

I'm just looking for a working version, that's all...

[kjir]

You have to install subversion if you want the command to work. Or you could provide more info about the crash of 0.97.2, maybe it can easily be fixed...

[kakaroto]

Jose, if you read the link I gave you you'll see that there are two methods, either using the 'svn' command or by downloading an archive that you can directly uncompress.. using the development archive method so you don't have to install svn...
@kjir: have fun : http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37865#37865

[Jose Hidalgo]

@kakaroto : All right, I've went through the development archive upgrade method :
- downloaded the archive,
- renamed the msn folder to Scripts,
- replaced the existing Scripts folder inside my aMSN 0.96 app.

Now I have the following error on startup : "There's a problem loading a module of aMSN (TkCxImage) on this computer. You need to update your system to Mac OS 10.3.9"

But I'm already on Mac OS 10.3.9 !  :lol:

@kjir : the 0.97.2 crash is difficult to explain : the app simply crashes upon startup (it disappears from the Dock where it was bouncing). If you know where I can find a crash log I'll be happy to provide it.

[kjir]

@KaKaRoTo: It looks to me like there is a problem in the compiled version of TkCxImage, couldn't it be similar to the problem we had with windows + VC2008?
@Jose: Run amsn from a terminal, it will give more informations. But KaKaRoTo already pointed to the same issue reported by someone else and it doesn't help very much

Send me your mac, I will fix it

[Jose Hidalgo]

Tried opening aMSN 0.97.2 with the Terminal ('Open' command). It still crashes, but there's no additional info in the terminal. Maybe there's an optional verbose mode or something ? If you can give me the right command I'll type it.

[kjir]

You'd have to use a debugger, but I don't know exactly how that goes about with Macs so don't worry.

What you could try to do is this: pick the file "TkCximage.dylib" from the working version (0.96) and copy it in the 0.97.2 version. I can't guarantee that it will work, but it could...
MAKE A BACKUP of the file before doing it, I can make no assurances on whether this will work or not...

[Jose Hidalgo]

The Scripts folder for aMSN 0.96 contains one TkCximage.dylib file :
Scripts\utils\macosx\TkCximage\TkCximage.dylib

However, the Scripts folder for aMSN 0.97.2 contains two TkCximage.dylib files :
Scripts\utils\TkCximage\TkCximage.dylib
Scripts\utils\TkCximage\8.5\TkCximage.dylib

Maybe aMSN 0.96 can't find the file since it looks for it in the utils\macosx folder while the files aren't in that folder anymore. What do you think ?

[kakaroto]

Humm.. I'm not sure if it will work but it might.. you should try replacing the Scripts/utils/TkCximage/TkCximage.dylib from the 0.97.2 folder (or SVN actually) with the Scripts\utils\macosx\TkCximage\TkCximage.dylib from 0.96
That error about you need 10.3.9 is just because we didn't expect this use case, so it was "if it fails to load TkCximage, then the user must be below 10.3.9"...

[Jose Hidalgo]

I've done that at the moment. Now the aMSN CVS version crashes on startup, just like 0.97.2. Reverting to the CVS TkCximage.dylib results in the 10.3.9 error message.

So, to sum it up :
- aMSN CVS + CVS TkCximage.dylib in the utils\TkCximage folder (default) : 10.3.9 error message
- aMSN CVS + 0.96 TkCximage.dylib in the utils\TkCximage folder : crash on startup, just like 0.97.2

And what about the 8.5 folder ? It has nothing to do with the problem ?

[kakaroto]

ok... well, this sucks! the 8.5 folder has nothing to do with it.. it's only for tcl/tk 8.5 which wasn't used at the time with 0.96 (which uses tcl/tk 8.4)...
anyways, we'll try to figure it out and keep you informed!
Thanks for the feedback!

[Jose Hidalgo]

No problem. I'm always willing to do more 10.3.9 testing if you need it. Just post on this topic and I'll be there.

Good luck !

[kakaroto]

Hi Jose!
So I bought a macbook today, so I'm now officially the mac maintainer (although I'm actually using a mac for the first time today :s)
Anyways.. I've recompiled the mac binaries and I'm wondering whether or not they are working better now for you.. Could you try them and we'll see if there's anything wrong now and i'll try to debug it with you..
Thanks!