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« Reply #90 on: August 20, 2008, 12:51:53 pm »

Little question: the developing of aMSN 2 is about to be with Python 3.0? and if not, there is a plan to transform from Python 2.x to 3.x in the future?
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« Reply #91 on: August 20, 2008, 12:54:17 pm »

For the moment, it's written using python 2.5, but i think we'll switch to python 3.0 someday in the future.
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« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2008, 02:02:40 pm »

Why not using Python 3.0 now? in the future, it will be difficult to port from 2.x to 3.x....
Python 3.0 is much more future proof and by the time that aMSN 2 will released it be stable and very common on most of linux distributions...
And if not 3.0, at least use python 2.6 that contain many of the improvements and features that 3.0 have but without breaking the API... and in the future port from 2.6 to 3.0 will be much more easier...
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« Reply #93 on: August 20, 2008, 06:03:48 pm »

when pymsn will depend on version X of python, we'll switch.
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« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2008, 10:50:08 pm »

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Why not using Python 3.0 now? in the future, it will be difficult to port from 2.x to 3.x....

because python 3.0 hasn't been released yet, and because even python guys says that, at the moment, everyone should work on python 2.x
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And if not 3.0, at least use python 2.6 that contain many of the improvements and features that 3.0 have but without breaking the API... and in the future port from 2.6 to 3.0 will be much more easier...

even 2.6 hasn't been released yet.
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« Reply #95 on: September 15, 2008, 02:29:01 pm »

I know this versions haven't been released yet, but in time for aMSN 2 to released this versions of python will be already exist as stable...
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« Reply #96 on: October 03, 2008, 11:48:43 am »

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The recommended development model for a project that needs to support Python 2.6 and 3.0 simultaneously is as follows:

   0. You should have excellent unit tests with close to full coverage.
   1. Port your project to Python 2.6.
   2. Turn on the Py3k warnings mode.
   3. Test and edit until no warnings remain.
   4. Use the 2to3 tool to convert this source code to 3.0 syntax. Do not manually edit the output!
   5. Test the converted source code under 3.0.
   6. If problems are found, make corrections to the 2.6 version of the source code and go back to step 3.
   7. When it's time to release, release separate 2.6 and 3.0 tarballs (or whatever archive form you use for releases).

It is recommended not to edit the 3.0 source code until you are ready to reduce 2.6 support to pure maintenance (i.e. the moment when you would normally move the 2.6 code to a maintenance branch anyway).


Many people won't directly update to python 3.0 so, developing for python 3 only excludes a lot of people.
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« Reply #97 on: October 09, 2008, 01:18:52 am »

If we update using svn does that mean we are using aMSN2?

I forget I thought it had to be activated in the past but I'm not sure.
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« Reply #98 on: October 09, 2008, 01:44:51 am »

no, svn is 0.98b, amsn2 is on a different repository and it doesn't look or work at all like the amsn from svn... it's not even usable yet!
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« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2008, 11:16:04 am »

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no, svn is 0.98b, amsn2 is on a different repository and it doesn't look or work at all like the amsn from svn... it's not even usable yet!


Thanks, I fell out of the loop and wasn't updated with what's going on lately.

0.98b is the one with the latest MSN protocol? In the past it had to be turned on when it was new, but now it's default?
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« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2008, 07:51:18 pm »

yes, it has the latest protocol, and yes, it's on by default, and no, this is not the right thread to discuss amsn 0.98b...
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« Reply #101 on: October 13, 2008, 12:35:56 am »

Thanks. Good luck with aMSN2.
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« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2008, 02:51:00 pm »

Let me be the first to know when beta is out :lol:
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« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2009, 02:06:18 am »

I just registered myself to the AMSN Forums...

How it's going with the development of amsn2? Please keep us informed, we are eagerly awaiting for amsn2 to be released...
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« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2009, 08:37:53 am »

Hi Tanner, and welcome to the forums,
As we previously said in many other threads, amsn2 is not yet ready to be released and will probably not be for a couple of years at least because the amount of work needed to finish it is really huge, and we don't have much time to spend on it either, so you just have to be patient.. or download the latest git version and try it out to see where we're at, and maybe fork the git repository and send us patches to help us improve it!
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