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« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2008, 12:26:48 am »

This is great news! So are we the first to fully support MSNP15 and P16?
As for the hotmail contacts thing, I noticed that even on WLM with a non-hotmail passport you still get the "Non-IM Contacts", this is irrelevant when you don't use hotmail, can this be ignored my aMSN for non-hotmail accounts please?
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« Reply #91 on: May 11, 2008, 01:21:59 am »

The 'non-im contacts' is not abot 'hotmail' contacts.. yes, if you delete a non-im contact, it will say "This contact is shared between Live Messenger and Hotmail, if you delete it,..." even on non hotmail accounts...
but in reality, this is just a generic address book, you can put email in there, phone numbers if you want, anything actually, so you can keep the emails of some friends who don't even use MSN...
In any case, you still can go to view->sort contacts by->show non-instant messaging contacts, and disable that...
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« Reply #92 on: May 11, 2008, 07:18:20 am »

Oh I didnt know that, but thats what my email address book in SeaMonkey and my cell phone are for, not msn, at least for me, but thats good I can hide them. I am updating now.
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« Reply #93 on: May 11, 2008, 07:32:12 am »

ok, so the news for today are...
1 - I implemented the AddressBook management (with Takeshi's help)
2 - Made MSNP15 the new default protocol
3 - Added support for Non IM contacts
4 - Fixed issues with expired authentication tokens
5 - Upgraded OIM support to a new method that is much better (no more 'authentication failed' errors and sending/receiving OIMs is almost instantenuous)
6 - Re-Added MSN Spaces support!!!
7 - a lot of bug fixes to various MSNP15-related stuff

Basically, aMSN svn is now the most advanced client out there in terms of features :p but maybe also very buggy!!!
One bad side effect of what I did is that if you're not using MSNP15 (like, if you hacked the code to make it go back to MSNP12 or if you set protocol to 11 before connecting), it will cause bugs when trying to send/receive an OIM or start an audio call or fetching Spaces info.. but that can be easily fixed later on...  (just make sure $::sso exists)

There might be some missing stuff.. I tried to fix all that as much as I could but I'm sure I forgot stuff, there's so much code, so.. it's not easy!
Among other things, I fixed the "allow others to see me" setting and fetching of phone numbers (yours and your contacts).. but I don't think it will remember if you change that setting.. in the preferences... I also think it might bug if you a "Import contact list" from a file...
if you guys would be kind enough to try and test all this as much as possible, doing all kind of stuff to see how it will go and report any problem you find so I can fix them asap...

And by the way, yahoo interoperability will be coming soon in an amsn near you.. I might have time for it tomorrow, but tonight, I'm done! :p So anything related to yahoo interop can be left on the side please.. thx!
have fun!
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« Reply #94 on: May 11, 2008, 10:45:23 am »

First off, well done Kakaroto on this Smiley
If you'd have been getting paid, I'd have given you a bonus Wink

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3 - Added support for Non IM contacts

Unless I'm being a bit blonde.
Does this simply mean you can add non-msn contacts to your contact list?
Because I tried that and it didn't work


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1 - I implemented the AddressBook management (with Takeshi's help)

Could you tell me what this is? I understand all the other things.
I guess it is something related to the contact list Wink


Thanks.
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« Reply #95 on: May 11, 2008, 10:54:28 am »

Quote from: "rowanparker"
First off, well done Kakaroto on this Smiley
If you'd have been getting paid, I'd have given you a bonus Wink

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3 - Added support for Non IM contacts

Unless I'm being a bit blonde.
Does this simply mean you can add non-msn contacts to your contact list?
Because I tried that and it didn't work


They are contacts that you have in windows live mail (or hotmail) and you don't have on your messenger contacts.
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« Reply #96 on: May 11, 2008, 11:12:06 am »

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They are contacts that you have in windows live mail (or hotmail) and you can have on your messenger contacts.


Ah I see.
So it only works if you have hotmail (which I don't).
Thanks.
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« Reply #97 on: May 11, 2008, 11:44:27 am »

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They are contacts that you have in windows live mail (or hotmail) and you can have on your messenger contacts.


Ah I see.
So it only works if you have hotmail (which I don't).
Thanks.


Sorry, i mean: They are contacts that you have in windows live mail (or hotmail) and you don't have on your messenger contacts.
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« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2008, 01:36:11 pm »

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They are contacts that you have in windows live mail (or hotmail) and you can have on your messenger contacts.


Ah I see.
So it only works if you have hotmail (which I don't).
Thanks.


Sorry, i mean: They are contacts that you have in windows live mail (or hotmail) and you don't have on your messenger contacts.


Ah right.
Thanks for clearing this up Smiley
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« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2008, 02:29:56 pm »

Found a bug I think? Shocked
My display name seems to change to an old one when I log out and then back in
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« Reply #100 on: May 11, 2008, 02:35:05 pm »

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Found a bug I think? Shocked
My display name seems to change to an old one when I log out and then back in


This is almost normal because your display name it's saved on server too. Does this happen every time you log in?
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« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2008, 02:35:17 pm »

Maybe (?) a bug:

If you have a non-hotmail / live account for msn, and you click on spaces to go and see the contacts spaces page, then it requires you to login.

But you cant login since you dont have a live account, it produces an error about the account not supported.
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« Reply #102 on: May 11, 2008, 04:53:39 pm »

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Maybe (?) a bug:

If you have a non-hotmail / live account for msn, and you click on spaces to go and see the contacts spaces page, then it requires you to login.

But you cant login since you dont have a live account, it produces an error about the account not supported.


This sounds like its more of a problem on microsofts end. I do not think there is anything aMSN can do to prevent this (except disable spaces for users not with a hotmail account - but whats the point).
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« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2008, 06:50:32 pm »

Is there an option to not show those darn Spaces stars?
They just annoy me... i've dug through the Prefs without finding anything.
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« Reply #104 on: May 11, 2008, 07:17:18 pm »

Hi all,
Good pseudo-morning :p
@rowanparker : thanks for the bonus, I needed it :p
About non-im.. basically for now, it's more like "if you delete someone, they'll become non-im"... if you want to add a non-im account, It can be done but I'm not sure on how exactly the whole thing works.. it will probably be fixed when adding support for yahoo contacts because that's also a pretty weird method...
for more info on that, read my previous answers to H@t trick (on this same page even). And as I told him, it works whether you have hotmail or not
The "Addressbook management" simply means that you can finally add/delete/block/unblock a contact and add/delete/rename a group, or copy/move/remove a contact from a group... we had MSNP15 for months now in SVN but none of these operations were implemented, now they are.

@Daniel15 : yeah, it might be a bug, the thing is that we always received the nickname from the server, now we don't.. I think... I'm not really sure about that, but in any case, the thing is that I'll soon implement content roaming too which should fix all these issues.. content roaming is basically a server to store data on so you keep the same 'volatile data' accross all pcs... so you can keep the same nickname, psm and display picture no matter which pc you're using...

@trv : it's the same issue as with the 'view profile'.. search the forums, some people get into hotmail instead of their profile and it's all server issues.. there is a new authentication method for redirecting pages, but it's complicated and not implemented.. live with it (for now)

EDIT :
@Trappski : no there was no option and I just added one in SVN revision 9871. You will find it in the appearance tab under the "show DP in CL" option.
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