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« on: January 05, 2008, 02:52:33 pm »

Hi,
If you need it I've written a simple (and tested) guide to install aMSN SVN with Tcl/Tk 8.5 and Antiliasing in GNU/Linux:

http://www.freepenguin.it/tip8-en.html



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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2008, 10:11:50 pm »

Hi, thx but there's a guide for installing tcl/tk 8.5 and another one for installing the SVN in the wiki :
http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Enabling_antialiasing
http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/SVN
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008, 01:01:52 pm »

Free Penguin's guide uses Ubuntu packages from Tcl/Tk 8.5 from Treviño's Ubuntu repository, rather than downloading and compiling it manually. Smiley
I've personally used a script called fixamsn.sh from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297676, I never got around to doing it manually Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 01:28:11 pm »

You guide doesn't also get the latest SVN it downloads the snapshot.
I personally find it much easier to get the proper SVN (easier to update etc).
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 02:03:34 pm »

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You guide doesn't also get the latest SVN it downloads the snapshot.
I personally find it much easier to get the proper SVN (easier to update etc).


and which are the differents from snapshot to svn ?
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 02:05:33 pm »

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and which are the differents from snapshot to svn ?


Well, using snapshots you can not easily update it (you have to redownload the whole thing again, whats the point in that) but with SVN you can run `svn update`.
And the SVN is more up-to-date where as the snapshot is only daily (I think?).
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 02:21:17 pm »

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Well, using snapshots you can not easily update it (you have to redownload the whole thing again, whats the point in that) but with SVN you can run `svn update`.
And the SVN is more up-to-date where as the snapshot is only daily (I think?).



yes but using the snapshots you can download and install it without having svn program installated.


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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 02:23:49 pm »

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Well, using snapshots you can not easily update it (you have to redownload the whole thing again, whats the point in that) but with SVN you can run `svn update`.
And the SVN is more up-to-date where as the snapshot is only daily (I think?).



yes but using the snapshots you can download and install it without having svn program installated.


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apt-get install subversion

You've got to install all the other things so I can't see how 1 extra prog can harm.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 06:24:15 pm »

freepenguin, its an nice guide, but i suggest one important thing.

Why not use 'make deb' insead of make install?

We are on debian/ubuntu system, and using deb files provides an advandage of course in removing and all. And since amsn has the make deb function ready, it's best to use it! It will just make a deb file instead of installing amsn, and then dpkg -i amsnXXX.deb and you are ready, and with apt support Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 08:19:15 pm »

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freepenguin, its an nice guide, but i suggest one important thing.

Why not use 'make deb' insead of make install?

We are on debian/ubuntu system, and using deb files provides an advandage of course in removing and all. And since amsn has the make deb function ready, it's best to use it! It will just make a deb file instead of installing amsn, and then dpkg -i amsnXXX.deb and you are ready, and with apt support Smiley


yes but with the compiling you can configure better the software for you personal system (libraries, program etc.). So also make deb is good yes .

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2008, 08:55:03 pm »

the "make deb" is an alternative to "make install" and not to "make".

When you "make deb" amsn is compiled as normal, but instead of the files copied to their locations after that, you make a deb package that you can install and uninstall easilly Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 09:55:57 pm »

That guide is outdated... it uses treviño's repos: tcl/tk 8.5 alpha 6, completely outdated. Also it installs tile and tcllib, which arent't needed. If you want packages, use gus-arg's one (search theses forums) or I've also made packages http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649364
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 06:56:04 am »

the guide in the wiki for the SVN explains to you how to use both methods, the svn method or the amsn_dev.tar.gz method, so you can freely choose the one you like most. Yes, amsn_dev.tar.gz is updated daily, while the 'svn' one is the most recent changes included. Also, if you do 'svn update' it will download only a few KB instead of the 12MB archive.
And yes, 'make deb' is the exact same as 'make install', you have to do the usual ./configure and give it whatever options you want, and 'make deb' will recompile everything the way you configured it to and create a deb package for you.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 02:58:29 pm »

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That guide is outdated... it uses treviño's repos: tcl/tk 8.5 alpha 6, completely outdated. Also it installs tile and tcllib, which arent't needed. If you want packages, use gus-arg's one (search theses forums) or I've also made packages http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649364


which are the differents of version between the trevino tcl/tk and these: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649364

??

aMSN work slowly or worse with trevino tcl/tk?


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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 08:33:38 pm »

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Quote from: "patrickfromspain"
That guide is outdated... it uses treviño's repos: tcl/tk 8.5 alpha 6, completely outdated. Also it installs tile and tcllib, which arent't needed. If you want packages, use gus-arg's one (search theses forums) or I've also made packages http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649364


which are the differents of version between the trevino tcl/tk and these: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649364

??

aMSN work slowly or worse with trevino tcl/tk?


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Worse, of course... alpha 6 pre-release version (not even beta!) against the stable release.. There's not much more to explain.
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