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gothicx
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« on: February 16, 2007, 02:39:10 am »

Why not change the "Save" button to "Apply" and when we click on it, doesn't close the preferences but save them?

I think it would be great.

Today SVN (16 february) version is great, with a new skin.. nice work!

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2007, 09:08:52 am »

why would you need an apply button ?

p.s.: use the appropriate forum...
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2007, 12:13:07 pm »

Hi!

Because It's better to apply when you're editing preferences without close the dialog, than save and need to re-open preferences.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 04:47:41 pm »

I know what's the meaning of an "apply" button...
I repeat my question, why would you need to apply..
you configure, then save, there's no real need to apply/change/apply/change.. all you need to change/save..
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 04:55:13 pm »

Quote from: "kakaroto"
I know what's the meaning of an "apply" button...
I repeat my question, why would you need to apply..
you configure, then save, there's no real need to apply/change/apply/change.. all you need to change/save..


I like to apply preferences and see them working in real-time. Each time I need to change something, I need to save, check if it works like I want and open preferences again, after find again where I changed it and click save again. And with apply we can have also have the tab opened in the option we changed, so we don't need to find it again in all preferences.

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2007, 04:55:02 pm »

Quote from: "kakaroto"
I know what's the meaning of an "apply" button...
I repeat my question, why would you need to apply..
you configure, then save, there's no real need to apply/change/apply/change.. all you need to change/save..


The fact that the preferences dialogue vanishes when one clicks "Save" is quite annoying. A button which would activate the changes in settings without closing the preferences dialogue really is a good idea. Whether the button in question is labelled "apply" or "save" shouldn't matter much, as long as it doesn't close anything.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 02:32:03 am »

the button says 'save', so you can assume (not really:p) that the changes are done instantly... acutally, when you change something in the preferences window, it's automatically 'applied', when you click close, we revert to the old settings... so just change whatever you want, then it should be applied.. if it changes the contact list, then try resizing the main window so the contact list gets redrawn...
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2007, 11:57:44 pm »

Quote from: "kakaroto"
the button says 'save', so you can assume (not really:p) that the changes are done instantly... acutally, when you change something in the preferences window, it's automatically 'applied', when you click close, we revert to the old settings... so just change whatever you want, then it should be applied.. if it changes the contact list, then try resizing the main window so the contact list gets redrawn...


And how about not destroy dialog window when we choose "Save", only if we choose "Close" !?
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2007, 12:50:05 am »

Quote from: "gothicx"
Quote from: "kakaroto"
the button says 'save', so you can assume (not really:p) that the changes are done instantly... acutally, when you change something in the preferences window, it's automatically 'applied', when you click close, we revert to the old settings... so just change whatever you want, then it should be applied.. if it changes the contact list, then try resizing the main window so the contact list gets redrawn...


And how about not destroy dialog window when we choose "Save", only if we choose "Close" !?


I find this a much better behaviour, this would improve the userfriendlieness due many other programs do behave in that way.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2007, 01:19:38 pm »

Quote from: "kakaroto"
the button says 'save', so you can assume (not really:p) that the changes are done instantly...


Of course, but I don't think many people assume that the preferences window will be closed at the same time.

Quote from: "kakaroto"
acutally, when you change something in the preferences window, it's automatically 'applied', when you click close, we revert to the old settings... so just change whatever you want, then it should be applied.. if it changes the contact list, then try resizing the main window so the contact list gets redrawn...


That's quite interesting. It works as you say, of course, but I've been using aMSN daily for about six months without realising this until you mentioned it. In my opinion, that's a rather strange behaviour. I think most people are used to pressing some sort of confirmation button before the changes they make are applied.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2007, 12:30:05 am »

I also think it would be more userfriendly this way.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2007, 12:01:55 pm »

I think that "Save" button is correct, but no "Close" button. Maybe "Cancel" instead "Close" is the correct one, IMHO.

PD. In GTK applicactions, changes will take effect on change, not on click "Save" or "OK" button, and "Close" only meaning this (close dialog Cheesy). Maybe another option is "Cancel" "OK" (or "Accept").
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2007, 06:28:56 pm »

I´ve always hated those buttons! We should have [Cancel] [Ok] [Apply]
Maybe without the apply. [Close] is definitely not the right word ffor that button!!

PS it´s sunny in mallorca

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