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« on: December 16, 2006, 12:56:44 pm »

Hi everyone,

This is an idea I got yesterday, during a chat with someone in which I often had to "quote" what my contact or myself said earlier.
Here's an example of what I actually mean :

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..::snipe::.. said:
Hi, I'm snipe
MyContact said:
Hi snipe, how're you ?
..::snipe::.. said:
Fine, thanks. And you?
MyContact said:
How're you??
..::snipe::.. said:
..::snipe::.. said:
Fine, thanks. And you?

MyContact said:
Oh ok, sorry, I didn't received it :s Damn MSN network!
..::snipe::.. said:
No problem Wink
MyContact said:
But, exactly, who're you?
..::snipe::.. said:
..::snipe::.. said:
Hi, I'm snipe

MyContact said:
Oh,sorry, I also missed that :$


The sentences in italics are what I call "quotations".
And I was wondering, whether or not it was possible to quotate in one/two clicks.
Of course, we can currently quote by selecting everything we want to, and make a CTRL-C + CTRL-V.

But wouldn't it be great to be able to do so by just, for example, (double-)clicking on a sentence, or on a small icon placed on the left side of the sentence(s) you wanna quote, and the sentence(s) would be immediately copied in the window where you write?
Or right-clicking, then having a "quote" line, under the "copy" one, that would copy AND paste in the writing box?

Just a suggestion, I don't know if someone else would find this useful...
But I think it's the kind of little plus that make aMSN so great Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2006, 01:54:33 pm »

cant rember if its a plugin or part of amsn but if you hold alt and push up arrow it goes through the stuff you already said.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2006, 01:59:40 pm »

No, it's not a plugin but part of aMSN, you're right.
In fact, it's CTRL+UP/DOWN that allows you to navigate through your older sentences.
But this wouldn't display the line up there ([12:00:00] ..::snipe::.. said:), so it wouldn't be a real quotation.
What I find useful in quotation, is that you "prove" you've really said what you're writing.
So, only finding back the sentence wouldn't be of any use, as you could have type it right now, and not earlier in the chat as I would like to "prove" Wink
Don't know if this is that clear... :$
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2006, 02:57:50 pm »

anyway I don't think this can't be done ATM. Better, you could be able to do it, but it would have so many complications it wouldn't worth it :/
so, for now go with the good ol' copy&paste Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2006, 09:14:45 pm »

Lool okay Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2006, 12:51:57 am »

you could just modify the repeat function to add your name and says before the messange, I dont know where abouts it is then the code but look through the tcl files for the keybind.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2006, 06:03:17 am »

Iv modified my gui.tcl so that it sort of does this now this is what iv changed.

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gui.tcl


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set win_history(${w}_${idx}) "$msg"


And below change to look like

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lappend win_history(${w}) "[::abook::getPersonal mfn] Says: $msg"


Save and exit

Now when i push Ctrl Up it shows what iv already said once before but adds (my nick says: my message)

Probably needs some improvement don't know how well it works with other versions but I applied to the latest SVN and its on line 6923
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2006, 08:24:05 am »

Hi,
I think this is a completely useless feature.. sorry but how many times you need to 'quote' ? and how many people would use that feature ? and even those who quote themselves (almost everyone) will probably not use it as it's more intuitive to just copy/paste... you'll probably copy paste THEN realize "ohh yeah, I could have used the quote feature... and forget about it again...
Also, about the history, I think this is totally useless and wrong to add the 'X says.." because :
1 - this is mostly used to repeat the same message a lot of times, like :
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my nick says :
 shut up
my nick says :
 shut up
my nick says :
 shut up
my nick says :
 shut up

And if you add the 'my nick' users will be annoyed by it. Also, if you do ctrl-up many times ? you'll get (example above) :
Quote
my nick says :
 shut up
my nick says :
 my nick says :
 shut up
my nick says :
 my nick says :
 my nick says :
 shut up
my nick says :
 my nick says :
 my nick says :
 my nick says :
 shut up


Also, quoting is mostly done on the other user, like :
Quote

he says :
 it looks like it
my nick says :
 he says :
 it looks like it

 what do you mean ? what looks like what ?


Finally, I often quote myself or the other user by simply selecting the text, then middle click in the chat window.. I never used Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V... which is a lot easier and faster (this behavior also works on windows plateforms btw...). You'll soon notice that if you do this, it won't copy your smileys, in that case, what I do is select, then single click somewhere in the window to unselect, then middle click to paste.. as soon as the text is unselected, the paste will also paste the smileys converted into their text symbol...
This is a Tk limitation working with unix clipboard functionality, when the text is selected, amsn will copy it and replace the smileys images by their corresponding symbol, when you middle click then the system (Xfree??) will automatically paste the selected text.. when nothing is selected, then the system won't paste anything, in that case, amsn realizes that and then it does the paste itself... thus allowing smileys to appear too
Tk doesn't allow us to access the system clipboard, only a 'local, Tk virtual clipboard', which will contain the replaced smileys, while the system clipboard can't have that...
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