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Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 01, 2006, 09:54:09 pm
Hi people!!

As i was mention in http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1062 and in the IRC, this is the begining of a new skin that i've named Emerald.
This screenshot will be updated as long i add new stuff, so keep and eye and tell me what do you think and what you suggest/ideas :)

(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/Emerald-Skin_mainWindow.png)
Main Window


(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/Emerald-Skin_chatWindow.png)
Chat Window


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: PJ on August 02, 2006, 12:41:39 am
Really nice skin Gus, you are a professional designer indeed =D
You wanted us to tell what we like and dislike in this skin. Well i love most of the parts
However at the top of the contactlist where *The current user's DisplayPicture is being displayed* I can see that you have changed the frame you used on your previous aMSN Live skin to a computer screen.
Iam not really a big fan of that computer screen and do find it looking better with the frame.

Please Gus dont take this as a complain, you have done a really wonderful job =D
But as you said you wanted our feedback. I would also love to a version which have a mroe sky blue *lighter blue color*
Anyhow good work Gus =D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Nontitle on August 02, 2006, 12:44:57 am
all i have to say is:

damn thats nice!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 02, 2006, 01:04:29 am
Quote from: "PJ"
Really nice skin Gus, you are a professional designer indeed =D
You wanted us to tell what we like and dislike in this skin. Well i love most of the parts
However at the top of the contactlist where *The current user's DisplayPicture is being displayed* I can see that you have changed the frame you used on your previous aMSN Live skin to a computer screen.
Iam not really a big fan of that computer screen and do find it looking better with the frame.

Please Gus dont take this as a complain, you have done a really wonderful job =D
But as you said you wanted our feedback. I would also love to a version which have a mroe sky blue *lighter blue color*
Anyhow good work Gus =D


hehe.. is all Ok Pj Don't be afraid to suggest and tell me what do you think ;) Besides i am testing, nothing is defined yet. And better, all sources of the graphics will be in SVG format, is very easy to change, for example the colors. Is why i choose this format in my designs from now on. Is more editable.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Nontitle on August 02, 2006, 02:26:08 am
are you using windows vista?

nice work i do think it should be a little lighter blue but other than that its pretty good.

if i could, i would download it now. actually, speaking of which, can i?


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 02, 2006, 04:00:32 am
Quote from: "Nontitle"
are you using windows vista?

nice work i do think it should be a little lighter blue but other than that its pretty good.

if i could, i would download it now. actually, speaking of which, can i?


hehe lol... i don't use Windows Vista and none version of "that" propietary stuff.
I use what give me freedom to think, to create... to dream: Free Software and Linux.
My main OS is Kubuntu and the Main tool i use for design is Inkscape, then Gimp.

I don't know when i gonna finish this Skin, because i have all my energy in it. You could see that on my icons (is the first time i design icons, so i will need to improve this work by pratice and testing)
So when i have little free time, i use it for aMSN, specially for design.

i hope to have this done in middle of august or maybe before that, time will tell :)

Thanks!!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Nontitle on August 02, 2006, 04:27:42 pm
cool. its just that the buttons on the window pane look alot like the ones off of a windows vista thing. the only time i use windows is from linux in VMWare lol


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 02, 2006, 06:19:58 pm
Quote from: "Nontitle"
cool. its just that the buttons on the window pane look alot like the ones off of a windows vista thing. the only time i use windows is from linux in VMWare lol

Nope, is a theme that comes with Kubuntu, called crystal.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 02, 2006, 09:11:25 pm
Quote from: "PJ"

However at the top of the contactlist where *The current user's DisplayPicture is being displayed* I can see that you have changed the frame you used on your previous aMSN Live skin to a computer screen.


Hey, your skin is great, as usual I should say :D
And I don't agree with PJ, I like this computer!!!
Great idea I think :P


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 02, 2006, 09:13:22 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Quote from: "PJ"

However at the top of the contactlist where *The current user's DisplayPicture is being displayed* I can see that you have changed the frame you used on your previous aMSN Live skin to a computer screen.


Hey, your skin is great, as usual I should say :D
And I don't agree with PJ, I like this computer!!!
Great idea I think :P


hehe, i wanted to change a little than the common DP holder :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 02, 2006, 09:15:46 pm
Quote from: "GuS-Arg"

hehe, i wanted to change a little that the common DP holder :)


Just keep going this way, change is always good for me :D

And people can always took back the frame you did for the Live Mesenger skin ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 03, 2006, 11:35:13 pm
Addeed another screenshot on the first post: i am now working on Chatwindow, you could see there my progress.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: jibi049 on August 03, 2006, 11:41:01 pm
Really good job :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 03, 2006, 11:58:01 pm
Yeah, looks nice !!

Gus, I've got a sugg' : the little green/blue/dark men, couldn't you change them? To something never done you know? Not litlle men, as it is in all skins,  but I don't know, esmeralds for example ;) Or a different gem for each status (esmerald=green=online, diamond=white=offline, ruby=red=busy,...)
Don't focus on gems, this is an idea I just get relating to your skin's name, but I think a "big" change in something completely new like this would be great :P

My opinion of course (a)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 04, 2006, 12:15:54 am
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Yeah, looks nice !!

Gus, I've got a sugg' : the little green/blue/dark men, couldn't you change them? To something never done you know? Not litlle men, as it is in all skins,  but I don't know, esmeralds for example ;) Or a different gem for each status (esmerald=green=online, diamond=white=offline, ruby=red=busy,...)
Don't focus on gems, this is an idea I just get relating to your skin's name, but I think a "big" change in something completely new like this would be great :P

My opinion of course (a)


Very Nice idea ;) i will take in Mind. Just i dont want to confuse users if this will be the default skin. But i will design those states to test, don't worry ;) Indeed will be the best choise for the name of the Skin.
Thanks for your interest :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 04, 2006, 12:33:54 am
Ah yes, you're right about the default skin, I didn't thought of it...
But well, why not confusing them a bit :D :D ?
It'll be their initiation to aMSN  :lol:

It's your skin which is interesting, just be proud of it ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 04, 2006, 12:36:37 am
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Ah yes, you're right about the default skin, I didn't thought of it...
But well, why not confusing them a bit :D :D ?
It'll be their initiation to aMSN  :lol:

It's your skin which is interesting, just be proud of it ;)


yeah!! indeed lets test this: I will change the away, lunch, bussy, etc.. states for those gems... what do you think?
I dont wann cut those buddies icons... was my first icons with Inkscape :)
And if this will be not the default, is ok anyway!!  ;) I will continue my way :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 04, 2006, 09:13:17 pm
I don't see what you mean...
What do you call "states", that you'll change into gems ?
I thought you were speakin' about the buddies, but the line under you say you wanna keep them (no problem, I understand this ;))...
So I'm a bit lost :lol:

Oh, do you mean you'll replace the texts at the end of the nicks by these gems?
In this case, it would be a really good solution :P

But if I misunderstood (what is probably the case :D), just explain me ;)

Keep goin' !!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 04, 2006, 09:58:46 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
I don't see what you mean...
What do you call "states", that you'll change into gems ?
I thought you were speakin' about the buddies, but the line under you say you wanna keep them (no problem, I understand this ;))...
So I'm a bit lost :lol:

Oh, do you mean you'll replace the texts at the end of the nicks by these gems?
In this case, it would be a really good solution :P

But if I misunderstood (what is probably the case :D), just explain me ;)

Keep goin' !!


lol!!

I am talking about to replace the icons that goes with the buddy ones... when an user has determinated state...


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 04, 2006, 10:14:14 pm
Oh, the clock for "away" or the phone for "At phone", that's it?
Yes, why not :P
But then people will also be lost, like if gems take all the buddies... because their main way to recognize the status is this little icon (clock,phone,...).
Don't you think? Or have I misunderstood once more :lol: :D ?
Well perhaps could you make two skins : a "classical" skin that'll be the default one (with your coputer screen and so on), and an "Esmerald" skin (with those gems)?
Easy to say, hard to do, I know, it's just a proposal ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 04, 2006, 10:54:13 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Oh, the clock for "away" or the phone for "At phone", that's it?
Yes, why not :P
But then people will also be lost, like if gems take all the buddies... because their main way to recognize the status is this little icon (clock,phone,...).
Don't you think? Or have I misunderstood once more :lol: :D ?
Well perhaps could you make two skins : a "classical" skin that'll be the default one (with your coputer screen and so on), and an "Esmerald" skin (with those gems)?
Easy to say, hard to do, I know, it's just a proposal ;)


jeje... is not hard to do it... i have no time to design "2 skins".
i will leave the states as is.
Maybe in a future version i will do it.... for now i want to finish this skin and use this time i am usign for aMSn to  others stuff off my work/life.
Non dev is taking in consideration what i said in the IRC and the ML.
Is ok, i have to much dedication specially to this Skin, but is someone is gonna look into errors/mistakes/defects into my Art, is the meaning that they don't want another default Skin. Is a reality. Because one thing is to give/listen suggestion from users, devs... and another thing is to not let "external" users to help to improve the default Skin... or give a "new look".
I do what i can, and this skin has a lot of work. But is Ok, like i said, i will continue my way.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 05, 2006, 02:22:28 am
:?  It's 0300 am, so I'm a bit tired, my english is getting bad, and my brain is not working very well, but it seems you're angry about something I said?
Don't worry about all the things I said, I never wanted to hurt you in anyway  :oops: Your work is nice, and I appreciate it, really !! As many people here I guess ;)

I'll come back on tomorrow with a fresher mind, and answer better, but excuse me if I did something wrong :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 05, 2006, 10:07:22 pm
Well I'm a bit fresher, but I still hardly understand what's wrong.
I'm not a dev, I don't use IRC nor ML, so perhaps have I missed something, but I never wanted to "give a new look" or interfere into your job in any way... I just wanted to help you
 :oops:
Keep going your nice (as usual) work, and forget about what I said ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 06, 2006, 08:31:04 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Well I'm a bit fresher, but I still hardly understand what's wrong.
I'm not a dev, I don't use IRC nor ML, so perhaps have I missed something, but I never wanted to "give a new look" or interfere into your job in any way... I just wanted to help you
 :oops:
Keep going your nice (as usual) work, and forget about what I said ;)


jejej Snipe! no!!... maybe my english is bad... i am not mad with you or your ideas, indeed i take those in mind.
Just others things...


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 08, 2006, 03:45:01 pm
Working on Scrollbars:

(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/aMSN-scrollbar.png)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 09, 2006, 03:57:38 pm
Tabs mokup:

(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/aMSN-tabs.png)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 09, 2006, 10:38:44 pm
If I can allow me...
This is *SO* goooood  :D  :D  :D
Really, I'm awaiting for it, it'll be great :D (even without gems lool :D )

Just go on, but seriously this is awesome !!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Kazuo on August 10, 2006, 12:11:04 am
O_O...
I looovee the tabs and scrollbars!
Hey GuS what you think about a whole desktop skin ^_^'? (just kidding, but you are making a great work,
i think we need more good designs look yours.)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 10, 2006, 01:29:26 am
Quote from: "Kazuo"
Hey GuS what you think about a whole desktop skin ^_^'?


If i could have more time, maybe i will! ;)

And watch out!! maybe in few days i will release the first beta!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 10, 2006, 06:53:47 pm
Animated Login mokup:

(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/aMSN-login_anim.png)

And the animation:

(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/loganim.gif)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 10, 2006, 08:33:40 pm
Well... many users ask for a beta/testing package, here you go :)

http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=43559&id=1

I have some graphics to design yet. Like notify windows (i've used the one i've made in Kubuntu Skin for the moment) and the hole smile set.

Enjoy!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: FdB on August 10, 2006, 10:01:12 pm
Just installed, I loved the main window, DP larger than before. I noticed however, there is one icon missing for Plugin "SendDraw". Great skin by the way. Can you have an alternative version with bigger Dp in main window? Maybe 32x32? Keep up the great work!!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 10, 2006, 10:15:43 pm
Quote from: "FdB"
Just installed, I loved the main window, DP larger than before. I noticed however, there is one icon missing for Plugin "SendDraw". Great skin by the way. Can you have an alternative version with bigger Dp in main window? Maybe 32x32? Keep up the great work!!


Yeah, didn't finish it yet (calculate the finished version at the end of this month)... besides i don't know any "SendDraw" plugin... is why i told people (in "New Icon Set" thread) to tell me wich icons do you want... and for wich plugin...


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Phil on August 10, 2006, 10:25:26 pm
SendDraw is the plugin created by Karel to let you send inks but it doesn't work well because of the ISF trouble
(cf ML :p)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 10, 2006, 10:32:42 pm
Damn, I've just tried it, and it is REALLY nice :D :D :D
Nothing more to add, except that you made the first skin which convince me to leave MSN-like skins ;)
So beautiful, keep goin'

PS: You put here your scrollbars, but I can't see them ?
And I can't find in pixmaps where you should place them ?
Is it possible to change them ?


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 10, 2006, 10:44:25 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Damn, I've just tried it, and it is REALLY nice :D :D :D
Nothing more to add, except that you made the first skin which convince me to leave MSN-like skins ;)
So beautiful, keep goin'

PS: You put here your scrollbars, but I can't see them ?
And I can't find in pixmaps where you should place them ?
Is it possible to change them ?


Copy the pixmapscroll dir of the skin inside /usr/share/amsn/utils replacing the original.

By the way, Notify window mokup:

(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/aMSN-NotifyWindows.png)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 14, 2006, 09:20:47 pm
OK, thanks for your answer ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 15, 2006, 12:46:40 am
Quote from: "snipe2004"
OK, thanks for your answer ;)


Your welcome, anytime ;)

This week or so i will upload the second testing package with most of the things done...:)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 15, 2006, 02:05:45 pm
I'm awaiting for it :D :D
Tx for your great job :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: markg85 on August 15, 2006, 03:21:46 pm
@GuS-Arg

i must say i`m verry impressed with your work so far :D though the animation (posted somewhere on page 2) might need some smoothing.. so that you don`t get the impression that the animation starts all over.

And.. you have made some wonderfull mockups.. but are they possible to use in the current amsn?
anyway.. awsome job :D and i will probly start using amsn on windows.. live messenger is getting to big for my taste.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 15, 2006, 03:32:47 pm
Quote from: "markg85"
@GuS-Arg

i must say i`m verry impressed with your work so far :D though the animation (posted somewhere on page 2) might need some smoothing.. so that you don`t get the impression that the animation starts all over.

And.. you have made some wonderfull mockups.. but are they possible to use in the current amsn?
anyway.. awsome job :D and i will probly start using amsn on windows.. live messenger is getting to big for my taste.


First, what you suggest in the login animation, in the animated bar, i can't do it in other way... the animation must start over again (loop). To do what you want, devs. must modify the code to load the bar acording to the login progress.

Second, all the mokups are "real" graphics included in the Emerald Skin.

Thanks.

NOTE: Please people... don't add me to my contact list on my aMSN without asking me first... My CL is private... and not plublic (and yes... is in my profile here.... but i decide who will be there... so please ask :)). Thanks.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: markg85 on August 15, 2006, 04:01:50 pm
@GuS-Arg you are mean :P

thanx for the information :) now i gotta find out how to compile aMSN under windows to see that wonderfull skin of yours in action


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 15, 2006, 04:09:21 pm
Gus, I think he would like, for example, this (that I think is possible to do) :
Code:


[  ]
[  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ][  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ][  ][  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ][  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ][  ]
[  ][  ]
[  ]


-> where each "[  ]" represents one square in your animation. So that you see the bar going to the end then coming back then coming to the end,...
This way, you won't see it starting again and again.

Markg85, tell me if I'm wrong :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: markg85 on August 15, 2006, 04:13:55 pm
@snipe2004 exactly :) though just a rotating aMSN logo will do the job fine but than again.. in order to get a rotating thing you will have to model the icon in 3d to even be able to rotate it.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 15, 2006, 04:45:38 pm
Something in 3D? Why not :D But it's not really needed, it's possible to make a 2D picture turning around an axis in its center, for example.
But let's wait for Gus opinion, it's HIS skin, and if you want to do your 3D and put it in your own skin, feel free ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 15, 2006, 06:33:44 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Something in 3D? Why not :D But it's not really needed, it's possible to make a 2D picture turning around an axis in its center, for example.
But let's wait for Gus opinion, it's HIS skin, and if you want to do your 3D and put it in your own skin, feel free ;)


Hey Hey... lets not change the style here.... is not a 3D skin... if you want it, design it for yourselft ;) One thing is to suggest... another to change the Skin idea.
Besides i have to much work to start to design a 3D Buddy logo (of course with Blender... that i never use it before...) And if i will do it, i will it do it right with that kind of App. and not playing with pixmap effects. I like to real work in what i am doing :)... Maybe in a future. Time to the time my friends. My experience in Icons will increase with time.
About the bar, yes.. i tought that before... Maybe i will test.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: markg85 on August 15, 2006, 09:33:32 pm
just to clear it up a bit... it`s making it in 3d.. applying a animation, recording it, saving it as a gif and that`s it :) it`s not like a 3d render thing needs to be build in aMSN :)

about aMSN itself.. i got it running now and i must say i`m impressed with the progress.. last time i had it running under windows it was still a hell to have :P but than again it was just one day out for windows or so..

Overall i`m not happy at all with the aMSN performance.. i don`t know if it`s because of tcl or anything else but it can`t be my computer specs (AMD x64 3200 XP, Windows XP MCE, 2 GB memory, ATI X800 GTO and about 800GB hdd) first things that i saw was the oversized perfections window.. it barely fits in my screen (1280x1024) and if people sign on you see a small log on window appear on the lower right corner.. that think is appearing far from smooth!! and it`s not sliding away but just gone after a few seconds.. o well.. aMSN is a verry good idea and it`s the best msn client for Linux but it sure has to be alot better before i start using it in windows all the time :P maybe when i`m professional in c++ i might attempt to join the aMSN team if they still exist by than :P

anyway.. the idea is gread and it WORKS under linux but for windows it just has to be smoother and by that i don`t mean a licked design but if effects are being used it should go smooth and all the theme things should be in the default windows theme (yes i know there is a plugin for that also) and everything reacts kinda slow.. when those problems are fixed this msn client will be my no1 :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 16, 2006, 12:19:21 am
I know Mark... i am designer... but i don't want to give  a 3D look. If you want to change that login after my final release of this skin, do it... will be GNU/GPL :D.
And please do not post off of this topic. Or will be very long thread and nothing to do with Skins.
And remember one thing.... "aMSN clone" does not mean to be the same as WLMSN is... but better (and of course, it is!) :)
I don't like to have the same WLMSN uggly style/design on my aMSN ;)

Of course is MY opinion.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: markg85 on August 16, 2006, 02:10:17 am
Quote from: "GuS-Arg"
I know Mark... i am designer... but i don't want to give  a 3D look. If you want to change that login after my final release of this skin, do it... will be GNU/GPL :D.
And please do not post off of this topic. Or will be very long thread and nothing to do with Skins.
And remember one thing.... "aMSN clone" does not mean to be the same as WLMSN is... but better (and of course, it is!) :)
I don't like to have the same WLMSN uggly style/design on my aMSN ;)

Of course is MY opinion.


o than i say it in short again so that you do understand what i mean because WLMSN skin is the least of the problems!!
aMSN works to SLOW and therefore it`s just not good enough yet to replace WLMSN!! but it is the best linux msn client/clone.
it has nothing to do with the skin

for the skin itself.. i might give it a few edits when you release the final version :) i will atleast run the skin on amsn to see how it looks when the final is done though the current one looks verry promissing :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 16, 2006, 03:26:41 am
Don't worry... i don't need credits... just this thread is not to post about aMSN problems.......................... I think you don't understand me....


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 16, 2006, 12:23:26 pm
Mark, as Gus already told you,
Quote from: "Gus-Arg"
And please do not post off of this topic. Or will be very long thread and nothing to do with Skins.
THIS IS NOT the right place to post your complaints about aMSN itself. You said it yourself :
Quote from: "markg85"
it has nothing to do with the skin
. If you would like to improve the skin of Gus with any idea, then it would be the right place.

If you have any idea to improve aMSN (and perhaps help to it rather than alway complain ;)), "Feedbacks & Suggestions" forum is made for you  :wink:

Here, aMSN isn't slow at all, perhaps something is wrong with your version. But it is not a structural default of aMSN, it is a default of your installation, don't blame aMSN for it !

What about Gus' skin, if you want to edit it by yourself, no problem, but no need to post it, many people changed some details of the skin they're using, and if they all post, sourceforge servers will explode ;)
And if you want to made us a wonderful 3D skin as you seem able to do, just do it, but don't ask designers to change their skin from A to Z just to follow your desires ;)

Now, nothing more about ANYTHING else than Emerald skin here, okay Mark ? ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 16, 2006, 03:05:04 pm
Well, i've uploaded the second and last testing package. After this, this work will be done and i will be on vacations from designing skins :P

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=43559


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 16, 2006, 03:20:44 pm
Aaaah, I'm going to install it, and bring you some feedbacks ;)

I think you deserved those vacations Gus :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 16, 2006, 03:45:23 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Aaaah, I'm going to install it, and bring you some feedbacks ;)

I think you deserved those vacations Gus :D


I have to corrects the position of the texts in notifywindows too... i will do it for the final package.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 16, 2006, 04:09:47 pm
Just one thing: the <:o) and ASL smiley aren't from the same pack as others: they are coming from default skin when the others are from MSN-like skins (and I appreciate you let those MSN smileys anyway ;) )

I see nothing wrong with the text position in the notify windows, I like it like that ;)

PS: Another small thing: when there's no DP loaded for the contact, there's a blue buddy on a grey square, this square having a blue border.
Well, as this blue blue border is correctly displayed when you let you mouse two second on the contact, in the CL itselfs we only see the blue border on the left and down side of the square (as you see,this a really little bug lol :))

Good Job :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 16, 2006, 08:20:58 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Just one thing: the <:o) and ASL smiley aren't from the same pack as others: they are coming from default skin when the others are from MSN-like skins (and I appreciate you let those MSN smileys anyway ;) )

I see nothing wrong with the text position in the notify windows, I like it like that ;)

PS: Another small thing: when there's no DP loaded for the contact, there's a blue buddy on a grey square, this square having a blue border.
Well, as this blue blue border is correctly displayed when you let you mouse two second on the contact, in the CL itselfs we only see the blue border on the left and down side of the square (as you see,this a really little bug lol :))

Good Job :D


Yeah... but remember still i have to design smiles icons.

About the DP.. yes.. i see that... but i dont know what is the problem... because the original size of the file (amsn.png and nopic.png) are perfect... in 96x96... i don't know why in DP is mixing the borders... because the empty place for that image is about 50x50... so my DP holder has that size... so i don't know... have to check it more.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 16, 2006, 08:42:31 pm
I can't help you...

And yes I know about the smileys, but while awaiting yours these are good, that's what I mean ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Giskard on August 17, 2006, 03:39:28 pm
Hola Gus!

First of all congratulations for this amazing skin, i like it very much and i am using it as my new "default".

While using it i have noticed something about the panel on the chatwindow where the [Para: <ninckname>] text is shown. The fact is that opening a new chatwindow has the same aspect as the one on the first thread page but when other tabs are opened they have a plain color look... is this working as intended? is this an amsn thing? only happens in my amsn?

Well as i am writting this ill tell you the only thing i miss from the default skin and is to identify the status of the users based on the font/background color (black, blue, green, red) of the panel refered before. It is not an important thing like that breaks  your desing but i suppose that saying what i think is a bit more usefull than only telling you how much i like your skin (and i like it very much  :) ).

That's all, thanks for your hard work.

(Sorry for bad english)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 17, 2006, 03:47:53 pm
Hi! Giskard!!

jeje, don't worry, my English is not good either! :P

About the image you mention in the chatwindow (called cwtopback.png), i thinks is a amsn problem/bug that i am trying to figure out... And yes, i talk it about in the IRC... but well, no many people take care to give aMSN a good look as i am trying to do and help to that happen. So i am at my own most of the times... But i will try to fix it! ;)

About the colors of the status of every users, yes... i tought about that... just i am trying to choose some colors to not have a bad mix of the scales related to the Skin... is why i didn't added it yet... just give me some time, always i have ideas :)

Thanks for you support, is what i need... people to help/suggest me getting the best of this Skin.

Cheers!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 17, 2006, 06:13:20 pm
Quote from: "snipe2004"
I can't help you...

And yes I know about the smileys, but while awaiting yours these are good, that's what I mean ;)


Well, that problem on the DP pics (more on amsn.png and nopic.png) now is solved!!
I used to draw a border in those images... but seems aMSN does not like it... is why showed a black border on the bottom left.
So, i've deleted that border :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 17, 2006, 06:50:07 pm
Okay, good work ;) !! I'm impatient to see the final release now :D

Thanks :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 17, 2006, 07:21:41 pm
Well... lets see if the loganim is better:

(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/Icons/loganim2.gif)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 17, 2006, 07:35:57 pm
Oh  :shock: Yes it is :D :D
Really good, now we must see it in aMSN itself how it will look :D :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 18, 2006, 02:29:54 pm
Ok, here is the RC 1: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=43559

If i have time, i will design the smiles icon set for the final version, everything else is done.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 18, 2006, 05:53:29 pm
Okay, RC1 downloaded and installed, no problem with it, loading animation is really nice, no more borders in small "no-DPs", it seems quite good ;)
Good luck for your smileys now :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 24, 2006, 01:57:52 pm
Well... i thought i would have time for design the smiles... but are to many (80 icons or so) and i want to invest that time (now) for my work/project here about free software.
So, i will include smiles icon set from Wengophone (OpenWengo) wich are very nice (only thing, are static... without animations) and as alternative, the smiles from MSN (smiles-alt folder).
So, i will try to "fix" (if is a problem from my skin) about the cwtopback image that never shows up when an user opens the chat windows, or when you have tabs in you chatwindow. Just with the firt tab works. And... when you resize the window, the image does not get resized... only when you close and open again that window... is weird...
I will put the sounds from aMSN and as alternative the sounds from Windows Live MSN (sounds-alt). Why? because the smiles and sounds are propietary... so, will be users choise.
I have no response froms devs about including this skin as default or alternative...
After doing all this i will release as final version.... so please suggestions and ideas are welcome :)
(i am still thinking about the colored text on main window over users states)

Cheers.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 24, 2006, 07:06:53 pm
Hey, will be nice when it'll be out !!! :D
Don't mind about smileys and sounds, as many users like official MSN, they will appreciate ;)
Two sugg:
 1) keep thinking about user state ;)
 2) Could you perhaps make it more visible, in an event box, if the contact goes offline (some visible red). I know there's the button on the right top, but as my event boxes don't stay for a long time, I can't always see what's the event box is talking about, and I trust on the general look of it to know whether it's a connection or the opposite. If it's not nice or if you don't want or if you do'nt have time, don't worry about this ;)

Nice job !!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 29, 2006, 06:47:09 pm
Snipe!! i need you help! :P
Since you are using Emerald Skin and tcl/tk8.4 (right?) could you please confirm this Bug (?) about the cwtopback.png image that does not appear when someone open to you a chat window and when you have tabs after the first one too. This image only works when YOU open a new chatwindow.
Here the screenshots:

Working good:
(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/cwtopback_1.png)

The Problem in the second tab and the same thing happen with a new chatwindow opened by someone:
(http://www.lnxteam.com.ar/downloads/pub/pics/amsn/cwtopback_2.png)

Another problem is, when you resize the window... the image does not get resized... just "take effect" the with new size after close the window and open it again.

Thanks!!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on August 29, 2006, 08:22:18 pm
OK, I've just tested it, but as I'm not perfectly sure I understood yoou well, I explain what I did:

You must know that I've two accounts, that I'll call A and B (not too hard to remember this way :D :D)

First, I opened few CW with some contacts using A's CL, and have a look at the different topbars -> all where nice, with this kind of "light effect". Normal.
Second, I opened a few CW with some contacts using A's CL, and then start talking to A with my account B (you follow ? :D). Then, I had a look to all my topbars, and they were all OK, with the "light effect".
So perhaps the topbar bug comes from your computer?

What about the resizing, you're right:

After my previous "second", I tested it :

Minimizing it causes no problem, images are well resized.
But maximizing them, and then you have a "whole" --> it's like if you would have a empty tool bar between the "Chat Edit View..." bar and the tabs bar. What's more, some of the opened tabs disappeared :P (two out of four, to be exact). But they are always accessible, using the horizontal arrows on the top right of the CW.
Then, just to see, I minimize the window again, and surprize : when the window is small, I can see all tabs again!!
And when, once again, I maximized it, they were three out of four tabs to be displayed... Strange, isnt it? :D

Now, I've just made another test: you know that you've three ways to min/maximize a window: up/down arrow, right/left arrow, or diagonal arrow.
Well, if I do it in two times: first using up/down, then left/right (or the opposite, no matter), I have no troubles, and get all my tabs.
But if I use the diagonal one, then I lost some tabs...
Don't ask me why :D :D
Another thing: when I mini/maximize, the size of the CW where I can write my text become huge (about 3/4 of the CW height), except few tabs, I don't now why some keep the correct size and some others become weird...

These are a lot of things, I don't know wheter or not they're related to your skin or due to aMSN itselfs :P

If you want me to do some more tests, just ask ;) :D

PS: Yes, tcl/tk 8.4, my sign is up-to-date :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on August 31, 2006, 12:53:27 am
Ok... so is like i said to Beast... about the cwtopback.png image (you called "light effect" ;)) maybe is a problem with tcl/tk 8.5... i will try to test it with 8.4 later...
Thanks Snipe!!!! :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on September 28, 2006, 08:10:56 pm
Final Final! version!!!

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=43559

Enjoy!! now i will take vacations from designing! hehehe :P


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Giskard on September 29, 2006, 08:10:20 am
WTF!! There was a RC2 post there!!!  :wink:   :lol:

Well, congratulations for your great work, i have been using your skin since your first releases, at last there is a final version. Thanks a lot.

Well i must say i have it a bit modified to colorize the contact list but that doesnt make the skin look better, just personal preferences.

Well enjoy your non-designing-amsn-skins time, come back soon and happy birthday.  :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on September 29, 2006, 12:58:59 pm
Quote from: "Giskard"
WTF!! There was a RC2 post there!!!  :wink:   :lol:

Well, congratulations for your great work, i have been using your skin since your first releases, at last there is a final version. Thanks a lot.

Well i must say i have it a bit modified to colorize the contact list but that doesnt make the skin look better, just personal preferences.

Well enjoy your non-designing-amsn-skins time, come back soon and happy birthday.  :D


jeje yes!! i just deleted that post to no reply again with another one :P
Thanks!!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on September 29, 2006, 06:15:54 pm
Ow, happily Giskard saw it, otherwise I would have missed it !! :P

So let's take this Final Release, and enjoy :D

Good work Gus, thanks for it !!!!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: tg90nor on October 01, 2006, 10:27:58 am
Hey GuS,

Do you mind if I put this skin (and the other skins you have made) on the website?
They are really too great to be hidden away in the forums...


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: tomhennigan on October 01, 2006, 08:46:00 pm
Happy birthday GuS!!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 01, 2006, 11:04:32 pm
Quote from: "tg90nor"
Hey GuS,

Do you mind if I put this skin (and the other skins you have made) on the website?
They are really too great to be hidden away in the forums...


Yes please! the other day i was telling to vivia that i wanted to contact you... just i have to much work i forgot.
Thanks for doing it that :) With time i will improve Ubuntu and Kubuntu skin, for now is just that :)

Cheers.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 01, 2006, 11:06:06 pm
Quote from: "tomhennigan"
Happy birthday GuS!!


Thanks Tom!!!!
I am enjoying this day :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: tg90nor on October 03, 2006, 09:41:01 pm
The skins are now on the website!
If you want anything changed, just tell me...
I will upload screenshots in a few days.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 04, 2006, 01:55:06 am
Quote from: "tg90nor"
The skins are now on the website!
If you want anything changed, just tell me...
I will upload screenshots in a few days.


Thank you very much! :)

By the way, you have left the Live Skin (is in KDE-look too).

EDIT: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39203


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: kakaroto on October 16, 2006, 01:17:19 am
Hi Gus,
I had a quick look at your skin finally. It's really nice, you did one hell of a job here. congrats!:)
Just a few comments, I don't know if other proposed that or if you already explained your reasons for that design (in which case sorry for not having the time to read the whole thread).. but here's what I noticed :

- great, for once someone changed the taskbar/traydock icons in his skin :) but I don't know if it's because I have a too high resolution (1600x1200) but it's a bit difficult to see that it's 3 buddies, there's too small. the traydock is perfect though!

- I like the whole feeling, but isn't it too white ? I mean, I think it's possible to modify the background colors in the skin, I think it would be better if the background of the chat window and the contact list were a little less white, maybe something blueish...
ok, here, I took a shot and changed a few colors, only for the CL and top of the CL, look at these and tell me what you think, maybe you can find better colors :
Code:

<topcontactlistbg>#DAE7ED</topcontactlistbg><!-- color for the top of the contact list, the status part -->
<contactlistbg>#ECF3F6</contactlistbg> <!-- color of the contact list, where the contacts appear -->

If you change the color like that, your images will need to change too, they don't have a transparent background...

- The tooltip is not that nice, I liked the one we had with the default, a blue tooltip with a border, that's nice.. now, there is no border at all (I'm on windows), so it's ugly because you don't see the tooltip, you only see text over text... the skin should be made 'international' if you want it to become the new default skin.

- the expand/collapse buttons of the groups are sooo hard to see, you can't possibly know which one is what, it's really hard to see, the contrast between the arrow and the background is hard to see.

- oh, one thing that stands out, the bar between the cl and top_cl, where you wrote 'emerald' is too large, yes I know, you like it like that, but I just think it's too large.. maybe have it half the height would be nice.. also, I like the 'emerald' written on it, but if you want it to become the default skin, maybe make someone more international like 'aMSN' or something like that... also the contrast again makes it hard to read the 'emerald' text.

- The two circles in the tab buttons.. I don't understand why 2 ? especially since the second one does nothing.. if you want to add it only on the hover and flicker, it would be nice, but add it in normal, it seems to be useless being there...
If you still want to keep it, could you at least switch the buttons of places? I mean, the 'close' button should always be on the top, no ?
Oh, I just had a (great?) idea.. why don't you put the close button an invisible button ? and then, add it to the appropriate place in the selected and hover image of the tab.. so that a tab has no 'close button', but when you put your mouse over a tab, the close button appears, and when you put the mouse over the close button of that tab, it gets 'hovered' correctly ? you know what I mean ?
tab_close : invisible image
tab_close_hover : the close button in 'hovered' mode
tab : the tab image without the button in it (like it is now)
tab_current : the current tab with the close button in it
tab_flicker : the tab button in flicker mode
tab_hover : the tab button in hover mode AND with the close button embeded in it

- The nudge/invite/file transfer/ink draw/buttext.png/tex buttons are difficult to understand... they really look nice, but I think the contrast makes them difficult to see. nudge is good but not easy to understand just by looking at it (although the M$ nudge button had the same effect the first time I saw it:p) but that should be ok, the invite is also ok, but the FT one is a bit hard to see what it represents.. the inkdraw too, and the tex one is good, you just need to make the text appear bolder in the blackboard.

- I suppose you did it on purpose to not change the colors of the top bar depending on the state of the user.. as well as not show the user's nick in green/red/whatever in the CL depending on state. That's your choice and I think it's better this way (I like it the other way but it fits better in the whole skin like this). Although for the top of the chat window, you could *slightly* modify the color...

- The border padding in the chat window are too big I think...

- I just looked at your notification windows, they're nice, I like that, but it's difficult to see which one is what..  that little button on top is difficult to see especially if you didn't have time to look at the window before it disappeared, same with the alarm.png one... you should maybe make the change more visible so people can easily know when someone "just connected" or "just went offline'

- I listened to the sounds, they're from the official client, right ? that's not important, but I think they should be made custom along with the smileys if the skin is to ever become the new default one.

- the alarm.wav sound is tooo short for an alarm.. that alarm sound should be enough to wake you up.. I used the previous default one (not the current one) as my alarm that woke me up every morning, and I can tell you it WAS an alarm... now yours wouldn't wake up a bird... it has to be more 'agressive', and a bit longer.. maybe like a horn or something, not sure.

- I like the display picture, but I wonder if we can keep the default amsn display picture with your skin, maybe just remaster it, like, keep the same DP but make it more 'emeraldy' .. but for it to be international, the '.linux' should disappear...

- You should maybe ship in multiple display pictures, the current default ones we have are not that good...
I also think you found a bug, look in the 'change display picture' window.. I see the default DPs, but when I choose the default 'amsn.png' DP, it changes it to the emerald amsn.png DP.. but emerald amsn.png DP doesn't show up in the list...


That's about it, I think... maybe other stuff will appear to me... maybe some stuff I said here are weird because I'm used to something else but we can get used to this too.. (like the default skin's emoticons, I hated them at the begining, now I'm used to them).
I know there's a lot of criticism, but it doesn't mean I didn't like the skin, it's really great and you're really good and have good artistic skills, I can't beleive you became so skilled so fast!
Anyways, keep it up, comment back on my comments, you can reject some if you like, as you already know, I'm bad at design...
You should meet with Tom Jenkins (if available) and Lee in order to decide for a good 'new default' skin.. I think we'll have to drop the contest I talked about earlier and we'll just have to start desiging a skin in order to become the new default skin.
good luck!

p.s.: send me your mail over PM so I can add you to my list if you don't mind.
p.p.s: btw, could you add the voice clip button for your skin too ? and if you're kind enough create one for the current default skin too :) thx


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 17, 2006, 01:22:20 am
Thanks KKRT i must say, you toke you time to give me some feedbacks, comments and opinion about Emerald Skin. Don't think i will reject it... not at all... from what i did once in the forum... is the past... we all have bad times...
Since the post is to big (i did't quoted for that) i will print it and read it carefully again. I saw very constructive words here :)
This is the first version of Emerald, and i was thinking in changing somethings, so your post comes perfect right now.
About the tray, yes... hard to see the 3 buddys... in recently designs... i've changed that to only 2 or 1 with some other art... i will see how to manage.
About the contrast, yes... need to be improved. Like there is "too white" colors, some graphics are hardly to see "perfect" or better. Thats in TODO list.
About smiles... like i say in this thread, i am planing to design the hole smiley set... just i need more time... and right know i am not living the best time of my life... but that is apart.
I need to concentrate again, hopefully i will inspired again, and more reading this. All my works was inspired by my ideas, and most of the users suggestion/reaction too.

So like i said, let me print all this, and plan the changes for the next version... this was more like "what i learn and improvement of my design skills". You could compare to the others skins i made. So, this one was more like the result of "training". For that, i will continue more with this skins than the others i made... but i will not let those behind either.
Again, thanks for your suggestions KKRT :)

PS. Yes, i could make that icon for the default skin (clip button), i have no problem for that, since i made many icons for many plugins allready. I will leave you at your PM my email/aMSN ID to talk about it....

Cheers.


Title: Continue working on Next Emerald Skin version: First drafts
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 17, 2006, 02:50:43 pm
Hi people, i've starting to work in the next version of Emerald Skin.
Here a first draft of the buddy Icon:
(http://amsn.lnxteam.org/downloads/draft/aMSN-Emerald2-buddies.png)

This was inspired in one buddy icon i saw around in the net. So, still have work to do :)

Like always, made with Inkscape.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Auria on October 17, 2006, 03:09:53 pm
good job! IMO these boddy icons look much better than the previous one  :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on October 18, 2006, 07:42:39 pm
Eeh, nice ones !!!
I like it, showing the arms !
But I think the arms should be more "visible" --> I explain : At first sight, you don't realize that the buddies are drawn in profile, and you wonder what the hell could those two triangles mean... Then, after one second, you realize of course ;) But I think that you could enhance them a lot if you could make the arms obvious. (What more, in (a)MSN, they'll be displayed in smaller resolutions)
I don't know if this was really clear... Just tell me if you want me to re-explain better ^^

Good work anyway ;)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Fabioamd87 on October 18, 2006, 08:10:18 pm
very good ;)

if i can, i suggest to add the background of the new button of voice clip :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 19, 2006, 12:29:20 am
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Eeh, nice ones !!!
I like it, showing the arms !
But I think the arms should be more "visible" --> I explain : At first sight, you don't realize that the buddies are drawn in profile, and you wonder what the hell could those two triangles mean... Then, after one second, you realize of course ;) But I think that you could enhance them a lot if you could make the arms obvious. (What more, in (a)MSN, they'll be displayed in smaller resolutions)
I don't know if this was really clear... Just tell me if you want me to re-explain better ^^

Good work anyway ;)


Yeah Snipe, but you will have good news... With "Beast" we are designing the next default skin!
Please be patience... since we want to concentrate on this.... and maybe you will not see progress of it on the forum, till have a "testing" version ready.
So, maybe that default skin will be the second version of Emerald.
This Buddys are just testing.... i've done what you mean in that post before too, just i didn't uploaded the pics. Always thanks for your feedback, helps me a lot. :)

@Fabio: that button that you need i've allready made it. Just i dont want to upload a new version of Emerald skin only for that "new" modificacion, just contact me and i will send you the skin with voice clip button.

Cheers...


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: kakaroto on October 19, 2006, 05:30:01 am
cool Gus! keep me informed by MSN on the progress of this new default skin...
about the voice clips button, is it blending in with emerald or with default skin ? I asked you to get me one that blends in with the current default skin, could you do that and send it to me so I can upload it to SVN ? thanks!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 19, 2006, 12:39:08 pm
Quote from: "kakaroto"
cool Gus! keep me informed by MSN on the progress of this new default skin...
about the voice clips button, is it blending in with emerald or with default skin ? I asked you to get me one that blends in with the current default skin, could you do that and send it to me so I can upload it to SVN ? thanks!


Yes, i will send you the icon i made for Voice clips. Just wait me till get home :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on October 19, 2006, 08:11:45 pm
Quote from: "GuS-Arg"
and maybe you will not see progress of it on the forum, till have a "testing" version ready.
So, maybe that default skin will be the second version of Emerald.


Hey, this is really good news :D :D I'll be patient, don't worry :P

Tx for all your work for aMSN (and its users ^^ ) :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on October 30, 2006, 03:17:24 pm
Hi people!

Well... this post is to announce that i will compile every week the SVN version of aMSN with Emerald 2.0 Skin (testing/development version).
Will be compiled with tcl/tk8.5a5 and for Ubuntu/Kubuntu Edgy.

You could download the package from http://amsn.lnxteam.org

Cheers.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on October 31, 2006, 03:31:10 pm
Eh good idea!
Just a question : will it be also working with Tcl/Tk 8.4 and Mandriva/Fedora ?


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: artem on November 11, 2006, 02:47:52 pm
thanks for this great and beautiful skin, I like and use it !!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on November 25, 2006, 07:38:19 am
Quote from: "snipe2004"
Eh good idea!
Just a question : will it be also working with Tcl/Tk 8.4 and Mandriva/Fedora ?


lol, sorry for this late answer, but i don't have Mandriva and either Fedora... i just could build those packages for (K)Ubuntu i386 and AMD64 (using tcl/tk 8.5a5 or latest).
If someone wants to build these packages from those or others operating systems, please let me now. Will be nice :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on December 04, 2006, 06:24:25 pm
Well, i just downloaded the current available version of Emerald...
This is SO good :D
Really nice, I liked Emerald 1.0, I'm about to love 2.0 :)

Especially your work on the smileys!!!!!!!!!!! They are wonderful !!!!!!

I have some suggestions, tell me what you think about them ;)
 1) In the Event Boxes: would it be possible to make the different colours more visible? I mean, the little circle on the top-left is not that visible. For instance, making all the frame in this colour would make the reading easier... I think ! :D
 2) Always in these boxes, something I don't know if it's due to the skin or to aMSN: the first line of the text is not enough far from the top border of the frame.
 3) In the smileys, on the "(k)" one (kiss), you can hardly see the border between up and down lip... I know this can sound stupid, but without the border, I wondered a few seconds what was this little red shape :)
 4) In the smileys again, couldn't you change the colour of the flower? Alone, it's really nice, but many people use it near the sun or a "buddy" smiley, so all this same yellow/orange colour don't make it easy to differentiate

When do you plan to release it?
It seems to be pretty advanced :P

Excellent work !!!


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on December 05, 2006, 02:45:31 am
I remember one day KKRT said to me: "No one will read the README of the Skin"
Now i know! hehehe

Those Smiles are not mine, are from the OpenWengo Project. Till i finish my set of Smiles, i will use those meanwhile... because i plan to design some animated smiles inside the set too, so.. will be some time till i could release Emerald2.0 fully complete. And don't forget i will compose the sounds too.
All this takes time, and more when i have two works in the real Life.

Thanks for the Suggestions, and be patience... i am working a lot for Emerald2.0, so it could be much better than 1.0 version :)

Cheers.

PS: About the Notify windows, the text and DP space is editable... i could add more extra space from Y and X to not be so close to the borders.


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: snipe2004 on December 05, 2006, 06:28:08 pm
And he was right ^^
I never even thought they could be a readme :P
But I must confess I was wrong, your readme is pretty good, thanks to it I just enabled the pixmapmenu :D

But I didn't see anything about OpenWengo, just something saying that icons and graphics are yours ;)
So, OpenWengo ones are great lool ^^
As you said me you were using the WinMSN ones before doing yours, I think those new smileys were yours ;)

Well, nice to have some news about the development of Emerald - but don't worry, I don't want you to hurry, I just want to give you my opinion about your - great - work :)
And it'll definitely be better than 1.0 ^^

Thanks for the Notify windows :)

And thanks for your work ;)

[EDIT] Damn it... pixmapmenu is not working with your files, but works well with default ones. In fact, when I enable it with your files, I can't see the menus any more :s But when I right)click on the tray Icon, I get the pixmapped menu as I got it by default. Don't know what's going wrong :(


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: LunaDiCristallo on December 06, 2006, 12:40:06 am
GUS eres geniaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!!  :wink:


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on December 06, 2006, 04:03:10 am
Quote from: "snipe2004"

[EDIT] Damn it... pixmapmenu is not working with your files, but works well with default ones. In fact, when I enable it with your files, I can't see the menus any more :s But when I right)click on the tray Icon, I get the pixmapped menu as I got it by default. Don't know what's going wrong :(


Because is only available with Chameleon now? :)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on December 06, 2006, 04:04:09 am
Quote from: "LunaDiCristallo"
GUS eres geniaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!!  :wink:

Gracias linda!.. espero que pruebes Emerald 2.0 en desarrollo tmb! :D

(sorry for non English post :$)


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: LunaDiCristallo on December 08, 2006, 05:45:20 pm
Quote from: "GuS-Arg"
Quote from: "LunaDiCristallo"
GUS eres geniaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!!  :wink:

Gracias linda!.. espero que pruebes Emerald 2.0 en desarrollo tmb! :D

(sorry for non English post :$)


Of course Gus, I'm using it right now  :D


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: Kazuo on December 10, 2006, 01:07:57 pm
Hi,
Gus, can I ask for new icons to spellcheck and to the latex plugin? Because they are not
updated for the new toolbar buttons style.
Thanks, the emerald 2.0 is sooo great ^_^ .


Title: A New Skin: Emerald
Post by: GuS-Arg on December 10, 2006, 06:34:52 pm
Quote from: "Kazuo"
Hi,
Gus, can I ask for new icons to spellcheck and to the latex plugin? Because they are not
updated for the new toolbar buttons style.
Thanks, the emerald 2.0 is sooo great ^_^ .


Is not needed to ask because is not a final release.. so please... wait for it......
This skin is yet far to be complete :)