aMSN Wikipedia page

[vivia]

aMSN's page on Wikipedia got deleted. They claimed it was "not notable enough". You can read the discussions here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/AMSN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/AMSN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2009_December_16#16_December_2009

Basically, we first need links that prove aMSN's notability, more specifically newspaper/magazine coverage or reviews by experts. More info on their standards is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RS. You can add your links on our wiki: http://amsn-project.net/wiki/Notability_links

When we have enough references, we need a new nice draft for a page that will include them.

We are already doing our best, but any help is more than welcome!!!

EDIT: You may also reply to this post with links and we'll add them

[kakaroto]

Thanks Vivia,
The amsn wiki is not world-editable, you need an account, and you can't create one without valid reason... so just reply here with any links you'll find and one of the admins will copy them to our wiki. Please avoid adding any non-reliable source, per wikipedia's standard.. so no blog, no "insignificant review", or anything like that.
Thanks!

[nicolunacba]

Starting prooving, aMSN is the most popular messenger for Mac, because it's the only GOOD msn client that supports webcam and audio. In Softpedia, it has an averrage of 4.2/5

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Internet-Utilities/aMSN.shtml

For Windows, it has 4.0/5

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Chat/Instant-Messaging/amsn.shtml

As I said in another post, from the article of "Emesene" they post a link comparing Emesene vs aMSN

http://linux.ueuo.com/?p=95

And aMSN appears in the "See also" in that article. Back to Mac. Just go to Microsoft Mactopia http://www.microsoft.com/mactopia and look for "amsn". Microsoft Messenger is so old, that users recommend aMSN!!!

Example from http://www.officeformac.com/.59baf131:

frapo
Dec 16, 2009
11:06am
   Re: Is today going to be the day Messenger comes out??   
I don't think it's ever gonna happen, just go ahead and use aMSN

And that's today! I visit everyweek Mactopia and I read a lot of replies like that.

If they need more proves, they will have it!    I am here, AND I'LL BACK!

Update ---

Reading an internet newspapers, an article about the new Windows Live Messenger 2010, they compare the new client with aMSN. http://www.tuexperto.com/2009/12/16/windows-live-messenger-2010-facebook-tuenti-y-twitter-estaran-integrados-en-la-nueva-interfaz/

In the end...

Another novelty of the upcoming Windows Live Messenger 2010 will be in the organizational. The improvement is designed to unify all conversations in one window, by tab system can access any of the active talks. This improvement may seem to be very original, although quite some time been operating in unofficial versions of the popular messaging service (like aMSN).

aMSN is popular!!

[kakaroto]

hehe, thanks.. yes, we know it's popular, there's no denying it.. but like I said

Please avoid adding any non-reliable source, per wikipedia's standard.. so no blog, no "insignificant review", or anything like that.

What you gave are 'user reviews' so it doesn't count.. the emesene vs amsn comparison is crap anyways, and it's one guy reviewing it, so it's considered "insignificant review".. the rest on mactopia and officeformac are just user comments, so it's not a "reliable source".. and the last link is also just a review by someone...
Read here the wikipedia rules on notability : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:N and about reliable sources : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources

So the links need to be for well known reliable sources, like real, printed magazines for example, or a notable software review company that "has an editor and a publishing house". Or if there was discussion about it on a newspaper or TV or something like that.

Either way, so far it looks like we're winning, *FINALLY* some wikipedia guys knows about aMSN and commented, saying that the deletion was a clear care of "I don't know it" and it shouldn't have been deleted in the first place.
Anyways, we still need those articles because we'll have to write a new wikipedia article for aMSN, and we'll need to have all those links as references on the article.. if we don't have them, then the article might get deleted later because the references/citations are not provided *with* the article.

[vivia]

Wikipedia page is back! Many references added, but more are always welcome.

[nicolunacba]

Not a reference, but ... Can we update the aMSN screenshot in Wikipedia? It's from aMSN 0.97 only with 2 contacts (with a cross) and without some cool plugins enabled like ColoredNicks.

[arantes]

Haha, there are almost as many lines of article as lines of references xD