Problems typing foreign languages?(was Arabic Fonts Problem)

[gesteur]

Hi have the same problem, i cannot write arabic or armenian fonts, I'm using  amsn-0.96_rc1 on gentoo
I added these 2 languages in the "control center" ->"keyboard layout"
if i write something in kwrite or firefox i can see these utf-8 characters without problems....only in msn i wont see them.
if i write armenian or arabic in kwrite and then copy & paste it to the amsn chat box...it displays it, but it's a bit unconfortable to copy and paste everytime, lol.
I also tried to change the encodings in amsn preferences.....

could someone help me?

[vivia]

Look for help on http://tcl.tk - it depends on them, not us, sorry...

[gesteur]

Look for help on http://tcl.tk - it depends on them, not us, sorry...

Under Suse I can write in armenian....but under gentoo not. It wont let me write the characters...
could it depend on the tcl/tk version?

[vivia]

Well, there are two possible causes (that we can think of now) : One was with scim, so make sure you use tcl/tk 8.4.13 or later. Another one was with xorg, a user got it right after upgrading from ubuntu dapper to edgy, and it got fixed after a xorg upgrade. Good luck anyway........

[gesteur]

I've installed tcl/tk 8.4.13 now, I'm using xorg 7.1 but the window chat wont let me type armenian characters....



the strange thing is that with suse 9.1 (XFree, tcl/tk 8.4.6) i could write without problems in amsn.
and there the software is surely older....

[vivia]

The problem didn't exist on Dapper but it did on Edgy (which is a later version). Unfortunately I cannot help you any further, ask the tcl/tk team for help (They are always active and helpful on irc.freenode.net #tcl )

[gesteur]

efxaristò vivia for the help

[gesteur]

the guys at #tcl helped me to solve the problem.
So, my problem was that the system encoding was set to iso-blabla the western european code.
First I had to change the system encoding to UTF-8.
Then I recompiled glibc and tcl/tk with unicode USE flag activated (do not know if it is necessary).




After this I can write armenian in aMSN.

to check which encoding TCL/TK uses tipe in the console

Code:

$wish

this opens a window
then type in the console

Code:

% encoding system

if it is UTF-8
try this command

Code:

% pack [text .t]

and now try to type in the opened windows with the language u want, the correct characters should appear.

recall: the system encoding which wish returns must be UTF-8.
Of course the aMsn preferences->appearance-> encoding must also be set to UTF-8.


NB: to use KDE, Firefox, Skype, KWrite, etc etc I did not have to change the system encoding to UTF-8, KDE did already the conversions.
somehow tcl/tk used the system encoding...and amsn uses tcl/tk...


cheers hov

[Oet]

Well, this doesn't solve my problems.

I'm typing in dutch, using chars like é and á en ë and so on.
trying to type those chars in aMSN doesn't work and gets me some strange \ue04 or so thing.
Tried that pack [text .t] thing on wish, and i can type the é chars and so just fine, so i'm guessing it's not tcl/tk that is the cause of this problem.
Also never had this with the 0.95 release..

any ideas? (using UTF-8 on aMSN and iso8859-1 on system)

Edit: Ok, after setting the same coding on amsn as found in wish using the encoding system cmd, it's working again!

[chy1013m1]

not too sure what happened.. I installed xgl , then revert back to just Xorg+Gnome, now my previously working SCIM+aMSN doesn't work anymore. I tried to recompile tcl/tk 8.5, aMSN 0.96, none of which worked. All I can think now is that Xorg-x-server 1.1.1 has a bug in it or something.

any thoughts?

I also switched to OXIM just to see what'd happen, but same for OXIM..sigh..
other applications work fine with either SCIM/OXIM.

[vivia]

there *was* a bug in some version of xorg...

[nesh87]

hey guys sorry for the bump, but i was just wondering if there is a solution for this yet? i have installed the Arabic locale but still the letters are backwards..

i looked at tcl's site, couldnt find anything..?

thanks

[kakaroto]

Hi,
afaik, the solution was found and you should set your encoding to utf-8, did you try that ?

[nesh87]

yup i tried that, my system encoding is UTF-8 so is my Amsn encoding...i think i have tried everything that might solve the problem with no luck

[vega]

Hello,

Maybe the problem is not from the encoding.

if you choose encoding:cp1252, and any font that supports arabic, then it will work but not correctly.
what I mean is that after choosing the encoding cp1252, and any font that supports arabic language then
I can see the arabic fonts but in reverse order after typing it, but while I'm typing I can't see it.

I have compared aMSN with GAIM, GAIM solved the problem by the following:
if you change the keyboard to arabic keyboard, then the layout of typing will change from left-to-right to right-to-left
and that will solve it.

I know that maybe all/most of the languages use left-to-right, except for arabic language.

It is better to develop aMSN so that it can handle the arabic language by the following:
when a user changes the keyboard to arabic, then the writing will be right-to-left instead of left-to-right.
otherwise it will be left-to-right.


I hope that will help.

thanks.