AMSN for maemo/nokia?

[maemouser]

Hi to everyone, I am an AMSN user for both windows and linux, i really like it, and a few days ago I just bough a brand new Nokia N800, which works with a linux OS based on Debian, named Maemo, and designed for armel processors.

well for people who doesn't know about it, this device has a hughe screen, 800x480 resolution, and a fine wireless system

so i was wondering if there's any AMSN port for this system, or if anyone is doing or willing to do it, it would be great, it's just what i need on my n800.

I'll expect your answers with impatience.

[Bloodsucker]

If work with linux, try to install the corresponents packages (tcl, tk...) and try to install the amsn.
Amsn work with tcl, if this packages isn't installed. I think you can't run/install amsn.

[maemouser]

I think you misunderstood me, the N800 has a diferent architechture than the main linux distros, it's not an x86 x86-64 or ppc distribution, it uses an armel processor, so it's diferent, that's why i came to "other OS"
well i don't know a thing about programming, and maybe someone has made something about amsn and the nokia maemo

thanks for answering by the way

[billiob]

Have a look at: http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16572#16572

[maemouser]

thanks for the link billiob, although it's a pocket pc thread, there appears some info about a possible amsn port for maemo, but only screenshots are available.

does anyone have more information about this? this starts to get interesting

[kakaroto]

maemouser, the link that billiob gave you is indeed about pocket pc, but he gave you a link to a post in that thread which had a link to this :  http://aim.homelinux.com/~darkelf/amsn770/
I have no information on how it was done.
But as Bloodsucker told you (he understood you right), you need to install tcl/tk and compile amsn and it should work. The thread about pocket pc explains what is necessary to do for porting the app to a non x86/ppc architecture, read through it please

[maemouser]

what should work? i need binaries for maemo, not for another architechture, what I want are .deb packages to install the port, i dont know how to port the program, if i knew how to do it, i wouldn't be here asking.

i'm not asking how to do the port, i don't know a thing about programming or else, i don't have much time, and i'm not english either, these are my reasons

my concrete question is "anyone knows where to find necessary packages to install amsn on maemo?"

i thought this was the better place to ask for it

[kakaroto]

maemouser, none of us here have that phone so none of us can compile it for you, thousands of people compile tcl/tk and amsn everyday so why wouldn't you be able to do it ? there are instructions everywhere, so just try until you get it to work. If you don't want to, then too bad, it's not gonna work and you won't be able to use amsn on your phone.
When I said "install tcl/tk" I'm talking about grabbing the source code of tcl/tk and compiling it yourself, I never said install the .deb. There are no .deb as far as I know. You have to learn by yourself now.
That's all I can do for you.
Bye.

[maemouser]

Ok then i let this message for anyone who has nokia n770/n800, has the knowledge and is willing to do a port of amsn for it, if there's someone like that he or she has all my support, and i'll await news about that.

[vivia]

you can make it work, but there will be issues, something about the menus IIRC and that the virtual keyboard won't work at all. however, you need to cross-compile first tcl. then tk, and then amsn, for arm... go to http://tcl.tk , get latest tcl/tk 8.4 (or even 8.5a if you feel like experimenting), cross-compile for arm, put it on your n800, then do the same for amsn... I think it's more complicated though, there will be some issues so I'll try to get more feedback for you.

[airadier]

Hi, to run AMSN you need the tcl/tk interpreter, and AMSN should run nearly without modifications (specific changes could be done, but it should work anyway).

The problem is Maemo works only with GTK applications, slightly modified to be "Hildonized". Hildon is the set of widgets specific for Maemo.

I was able to build tcl and tk for maemo. Just got the ubuntu sources for tcl and tk 8.4, and built them in the maemo sdk scratchbox. Tcl works perfect in maemo, as it's command line.

About tk, it works in maemo, but it's not hildonized. The main problems are:

1. There's no application icon in the side bar, so you can't see the application is running. If you minimize the TK application, it can't be restored. TK should be modified to support this.

2. Virtual keyboard input doesn't work. Hildon text widgets will launch the virtual keyboard when they are focused, but this isn't done in TK text widgets, so some changes in TK are needed for this.

3. The menus are shown inside the application instead of in the maemo menu bar.

4. Font management. I build tk8.4, and no fonts where available when running AMSN, only the ugly "fixed". I guess this would work by using TK 8.5 instead of 8.4, as it uses xft for font handling.[/list]

[kakaroto]

argh.. vivia.. alvaro.. you're wasting your time, I told the guy the same thing but he DOESN'T WANT TO COMPILE! he wants someone to do it for him because he doesn't want to mess around with compilation (total n00b about it), he just wants a precompiled .deb for his architecture...
read the last three post before vivia's post.

[kakaroto]

http://www.geocities.jp/ono_tetsu/gnocl/

[vivia]

yes...... gnocl only not tk tk is still not hildonized, it just runs, but there's still no way to type in textboxes (for example) ...

[kakaroto]

maemouser, I managed to make aMSN work on n800, you can read all about it on http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21461#21461

EDIT :  info has been posted here : http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3659
please continue the discussion in that thread.
Thanks.